Born: 29 November 1624, Cashel, County Tipperary
Entered: 08 November 1641, Villagarcía, Galicia, Spain (CAST)
Ordained: 1648/9
Final Vows: 08 September 1658
Died: 07 April 1682, Dublin, County Dublin
Left Society of Jesus: 17 May 1674
Nephew of James Sall - RIP 1646; cousin of Andrew Fitzbennet Sall, RIP - 1686; Uncle of Stephen Sall - RIP 1722
Francis Finegan SJ Biographical Dictionary 1598-1773
Andrew Sall
According to most historians, Andrew Sall was the “Provincial” of the Jesuits who became a Protestant! here happened to be two comntemporary Irish Jesuit cousins. Society correspondence distinguishes between the two : Andrewas Sall Benedicti and Andreas Sall Joannis. Thes names, are, since Father Hogan’s time, rendered : Andrew Fitzbennet Sall and Andrew Fitzjohn Sall. The form FutzBennet has contemporary warrant outside the Society. I have not yet met with the form FitzJohn in contemporary documents.
The reader wikll be able to distinguish between the two and make up his mind that the Superior of the Mission did not apostasise.
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Andrew Fitzjohn Sall
he was born in Cashel November 29, 1624, and he studied Philosophy for two years before he entered the Society at Villagarcía on November 8, 1640.
After his Noviceship he completed his Philosophy (the sources do not state where) and taught Humaniteis for two years at the Jesuit College of Compostella, he entered on his Theological studies in 1645 at the College of St AMbrose, Valladolid, and was ordained Priest there 1648/1649. Whether he made his tertianship at the end of his studies is uncertain.
By October 9, 1650, he was already Rector of the Irish College, Salamanca, and remained in office there until at least May 25, 1652. While at Salamanca he lectured in Controversial Theollgy. His next assignmant after Salamanca was that of Operarius at Oviedo (1655) and Pamplona (1658), where he was teaching Philosophy. Two years later he was teaching Philosophy or Theology at the College of Palencia, and was still, for all we know, at Palencia when he was recalled to the Irish Mission in 1664. He exercised his ministry in his native Cashel. Before he returned from Spain he had been admitted to the ranks of the solemnly professed of the Society on September 8, 1658.
In Cashel he proved himself an able Preacher, and is described in the Catalogues of 1666 as In confiutandis Jansenistis et heterodoxis potens. The General, however, in a letter of October 12, 1669 to the Superior of the Mission, Father Francis White, comunicated his apprehensiosn with regard to Fitzjohn Sall; “Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty, and make him follow the example of Father Sall senior”.
It is a matter of general knowledge that Sall apostasised in the Church of St John, Cashel, on May 17, 1674. The following Jul 5, he preached before the Lord Lieutenant and Council a sermon in Christ Church, Dublin, giving his reasons for entering the established Protestant Church in Ireland.
His later history is of no concern to the Society, it has been dealt with in varius articles and pamphlets. It is enough to state here that the General issued directives that while members of the Irish Mission might answeer Sall’s doctrinal errors, no word should be used against him, likely to confirm him in his obduracy. The General hoped against hope that Sall would return to the Church.
He died unexpectedly in Dublin, April 7, 1862, and was buried at St Patrick’s Cathedral. Of his unhappy end, news was communicated by Archbishop John Brennan to Propaganda on May 1, 1682:-
Ne mese prossimo passato mori in Dublino Andrea Sll gesuita della diocesi Casselense, apostata dela fede. Si dice che volesse l’assistenza d’un sacerdote alla morte, ma non gli riusci, morendo subitamente.
(The article on Sall in the DNB (by R Bagwell) is quite untrustworthy so far as concerns Sall’s career in the Society. Foley, surprisingly, translates Andrew Fitzbennet Sall from Liège to Spain to make him Rector at Salamanca. he doesn’t make him leave the Church, however. It is to Hogan’s credit, in spite of the fact that he worked very mucg at second-hand and leaned heavily on Foley, that he keeps distinct the careers of the two Andrews.)
◆ George Oliver Towards Illustrating the Biography of the Scotch, English and Irish Members SJ
F. Andrew Sall - This unfortunate man was born at Cashell, in 1612, and at the age of 23 joined the Society in the English Province. In 1642 he was studying the fourth year of Theology at Liege College. Re turning to Ireland, he so conducted himself as to he reported to the General of the Order, by Pere Verdier, who had met him in the course of his Visitation at Cashell, as “valde bonus et candidi animi”. When the Parliamentary supplanted the Royal Authority in Ireland, and many of the Regular and Secular Clergy fled from their savage persecutors, F. Sall remained behind, and did good service to Religion, chiefly at Waterford. But, at length, he was hunted out by the Priest Catchers From his own letter I learn, that after saying Mass, he was apprehended on the 22nd of January 1658, in the house of a respectable widow in Watetford. After thirteen months imprisonment, he was discharged from jail at the intercession of the Portuguese Ambassador; but condemned to perpetual exile. He reached Nantz in June, 1659 and was certainly there with F Thomas Quin on the 24th of February, 1660. Subsequently he went to Spain; and on his return to Ireland in 1663 was appointed Superior to his Brethren. This promotion, I fear, turned his head. A letter of F. Nicholas Netterville, a Jesuit of superior merit, to Fr. J. P. Oliva, dated Amiens, the 8th of February, 1667, satisfies me that F. Sall was then an altered man. No one becomes wicked on a sudden; and F Sall must have resisted many graces and warnings, before he publicly abjured the Catholic Faith in his native City, on the 17th of May, 1674. F. Stephen Rice, the Superior in Ireland, after stating to the said General the joy afforded to the Irish Mission by the erection of the new Seminary at Poitiers, observes, that their joy was clouded by the fall of this Brother, the first instance of apostacy of an Irish Jesuit. He adds that F. Sall had grown weary of the vows of poverty - had studied self-ease - had been addicted to vain glory, and much too fond of popular applause. Heresy showered on the miserable old man a profusion of titles and Church Preferments, of all which death deprived him, on the 6th of April, 1682. “Si Sal infatuatuin fuerit, &c.” If the salt have lost its savour, it is good for nothing, but to be cast out, and trodden under the foot of men. Yet in Peter Walsh he found an Advocate, if not an Admirer.
We may remark, that Harris’ account of this poor Renegade may, in many respects, be refuted by original documents, now extant.
A letter to me (Oliver) from the learned William Talbot Esq, dated Rool=klands, Wexford, 12 April, 1824, says “The Renegade Sall, in his last moments, called for a Cath clergyman, but none were allowed to see him”.
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DICTIONARY OF IRISH BIOGRAPHY
Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn
Contributed by
McCaughey, Terence
Sall, Andrew Fitzjohn (1624–82), scholar and sometime Jesuit, was born into an Old English family in the city of Cashel, Co. Tipperary; nothing is known of his parents. More than five Jesuits bore the name Sall (Sál, Sale). With such a background it is not surprising to find the young Andrew Fitzjohn Sall setting off in 1638 to study in Spain. He was to be there for seventeen years. His period on the staff of the college at Numacia and Villagarcia was probably routine. But not so his appointment to Pamplona, where he became advisor to El Conde de San Stephano and made his first acquaintance with Bishop Nicholas French (qv). He became rector of the Irish College in 1652 and was professor of controversial theology. An intention to change the direction of his career is suggested by the fact that he was serving as a pastoral substitute in Oviedo in 1655. Three years later, however, he was back in Pamplona teaching.
He returned to Ireland not later than 1665, and is not to be confused with his older cousin, and namesake, the superior of the order. As late as 12 October 1669 the general of the order in a letter says: ‘Keep Andrew Sall junior to his duty and make him follow the example of Fr Sall senior’, i.e. his cousin. The Ireland to which he returned was riven with the controversy associated with the loyal remonstrance of the Franciscan Peter Walsh (qv) and others, into which he readily entered. Association with the protestant archbishop Thomas Price (qv) aroused in him many misgivings about aspects of Roman catholic doctrine and practice. Later he acknowledged that he entertained the thought of separation from the Roman catholic church but resolved to spend the remnant of his days ‘retired and unknown to prepare better for the long day of eternity’ (Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, preface). Later he prepared a paper, not for publication, which ‘dropped from me and fell into the hands of some’ (ibid.) who concluded that he had already become a protestant minister. The exchange of letters that took place between Fr Sall and Fr Stephen Rice in Dundalk is a sad one, Fr Rice offering to make amends for any offence so that ‘union at least of Christianity if not of religion may be entire among us’ (ibid.). For a variety of reasons the breach was not healed.
Sometime in the summer of 1674 Andrew Sall took up residence in TCD. Here he prepared and successfully defended his DD thesis. Here too he came under the protection of Dr John Fell (1625–86), who facilitated the work of scripture translation into various languages then being undertaken in Oxford. In July 1675 Sall took refuge in Oxford, where he remained till 1680. He saw no less than three books of a theological and polemical nature through the press during this period, but it can be no accident that on his return to Ireland he was drawn into translation work.
Sall's return to Ireland was prompted by a desire to assist Robert Boyle (qv) and his sister in their various translation activities. But one last activity he had to leave unfinished was the publication of the translation of the Old Testament by Murtagh King (qv) (Muircheartach Ó Cionga) and Séamas de Nógla (James Nangle), which had been made under the aegis of William Bedell (qv) in the 1630s. The translation had been rescued and preserved by Denis Sheridan (qv) (Donnchadh Ó Sioradáin), a protégé of Bedell, by whom it was given to Henry Jones (qv), bishop of Meath. Sall had already seen the text at Jones's house, and he expressed the view that ‘the Irish version of the Old Testament should be revised’. On the question of register, for instance, he had this to say: ‘This much in general I shall insinuate, that if I were fit to be a translator, of two ends men may aim at in such a work, the one of getting the credit of skill in the primitive ancient Irish, the other of benefiting common readers by expressions now in use, I would choose the latter . . .’ When he first came to examine the manuscript, Sall discovered it to be ‘a confused heap’, had it rebound, and hoped ‘to make up a complete Old Testament with the help of God and Mr Higgin’, i.e. Pól Ó hUigínn (qv), the Irish lecturer at Trinity College. He goes on to speak of what a labour it ‘will be to draw up a clear copy of the whole’.
Sall worked at the text of Bedell's Old Testament during the early months of 1682, and by 7 February he reported that eight chapters of Genesis had been written out from the manuscript ‘in very fair letter as clear as any print’. The scribe Mr Mullan, a bachelor of physic, had agreed to the rate of eleven pence a sheet, with the acquiescence of Dr Narcissus Marsh (qv), provost of Trinity College, and Ó hUigínn. Mullan supplied the first transcriptions under Sall's supervision. He also stayed at Sall's house, and Dr Sall says of himself that he would lay aside other duties so as to attend to this work. Actually he had just over two months left; he never returned to his other work, nor did he finish this work either. But for the time that was left he threw himself into it, both the work on the text and the administration of a subscription list.
In the course of all this Andrew Sall discovered – rather to his surprise at first, it would seem – that the project of making the scriptures available in Irish, and the scheme of proselytisation of which it was an essential instrument, were actually opposed by some within the protestant camp, while others remained at least ambivalent. ‘One of them had the gallantry to tell me in my face, and at my own table, that while I went about to gain the Irish (to God, I mean), I should lose the English.’
From November 1680 till his death (5 April 1682) he lived in Oxmanstown on the north bank of the River Liffey in Young's Castle (Michael Hunter and Edward B. Davis (ed.), The works of Robert Boyle (14 vols, 1999–2000), v, 608).
More information on this entry is available at the National Database of Irish-language biographies (Ainm.ie).
Sources
The doleful fall of Andrew Sall, a Jesuit of the fourth vow, from the Roman Catholick apostolic faith, lamented by his constant friend, Nicholas French (Douai, 1674); The unerring and unerrable church; or, An answer to a sermon preached by Mr Andrew Sall, formerly a Jesuit and now a minister of the protestant church, written by I. S. (1675); Andrew Sall, True catholic and apostolic faith, maintained in the Church of England . . . (1676); id., A sermon preached at Christ-Church in Dublin before the lord lieutenant and council, July 5, 1674; Michael Hunter, Antonio Clericuzio, and Lawrence M. Principe (ed.), The correspondence of Robert Boyle (6 vols, 2001)
